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Week in politics: U.S. stays away from new conflict, shakeup in Trump's appointees
SCOTT SIMON, HOST:
And we're going to turn out NPR senior political edito
r and correspondent Domenico Montanaro.
Domenico, thanks for being with us.
DOMENICO MONTANARO, BYLINE: Hey, Scott.
SIMON: Traditionally,
Domenico,
the U.S. would step up
and try to avoid the worst
in a conflict.
What does the administration say?
MONTANARO: Yeah.
And you would have seen a more whole - full-scale approach diplomatically,
but Trump said
in his social media post
that the ceasefire announced
came after a long night of talks mediated
by the U.S
. He then offered congratulations
to both countries on,
he said, using common sense and great intelligence.
We don't know how long this holds,
if it holds.
We know that Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
like you said,
has been in touch with officials
on both sides in both countries.
State Department said
Rubio wants to see both sides de-escalate
and reestablish direct communication
to avoid miscalculation.
But we know that Vice President JD Vance,
earlier in the week,
had made waves, telling Fox News
that the conflict was fundamentally none of our business a
nd that the U.S. wants to see de-escalation.
But, he said,
we can't control what these countries do.
SIMON: Domestically,
a federal judge ordered
the release of a graduate student
detained by U.S. immigration authorities
saying, quote, "
there is no evidence here."
MONTANARO: Yeah. This is the case of the young woman
Rumeysa Ozturk,
a Tufts University international student
who was seen on video,
you might remember,
taken off the streets in Massachusetts
by plainclothes government officers and
renditioned to a detention center
in Louisiana.
She'd been there
for the last six weeks
. The government had accused her
of participating in activitie
s that were supportive of Hamas,
but the judge in this case said that
there's just no evidence of that.
And his decision to release her holds,
he said,
until he makes a final ruling
about the constitutionality of her detention.
SIMON: There's been a shake-up
of Trump's political appointees.
Who's in?
Who's out this week?
MONTANARO: Yeah. You know
, you might know the name Jeanine Pirro.
She's famously...
SIMON: Yes.
MONTANARO: ...Known as Judge Jeanine
on Fox News.
But she hasn't practiced law
in a long time,
but she's taking over
as interim U.S. attorney for D.C.
She's pretty close to Trump
and is replacing his first pick
for the job, Ed Martin.
It was pretty clear
Martin didn't have the votes
because of his views on January 6.
He was very much involved
in the Stop the Steal efforts
and defended some of those
who stormed the Capitol that day.
You know, Pirro's own statements, though,
have gotten her in trouble -
and her network -
on the 2020 election.
Casey Means is the new pick
for surgeon general.
She's a close ally
of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
. She replaces another Fox News personality
whose credentials came under scrutiny last week.
The controversy
around Means is that
her medical license isn't active
. That's usually a prerequisite
to be surgeon general.
She didn't finish her residency
. She said
she'd lost faith
in modern American medicine
. So, Scott, Fox News, RFK Jr.
, that's who Trump seems to be listening to
when it comes to many of these appointments.
SIMON: And, of course,
want to ask you - a new pope.
MONTANARO: Yeah.
SIMON: Not exactly political
in the American sense,
but let's not be naive about it.
Popes always are -
have something to do with politics.
MONTANARO: Yeah, definitely.
You know,
and most Americans never thought
they'd see an American pope in their lifetime
. You know
, that he's American really raised eyebrows
, not just because there's never been one,
but also because of
who's in the White House currently,
in President Trump.
Some scholars have suggested
that it might not be a total coincidence
that an American very unlike Trump was picked.
This pope says
he'll be a pope
in the vein of Francis,
who was pro-immigrant,
pro-climate action
and a supporter of Ukraine.
He said just this morning
that he picked the name Leo
- Leo XIV in this case
- because Leo XIII spoke out at the turn
of the 20th century
about workers' rights
during the Industrial Revolution
, and now he sees another industrial revolution
with artificial intelligence.
We'll see how much of a moralistic check
he is to Trump.
But when a pope speaks,
you know,
people listen.
So it can tend to matter.
Also, Scott
, I know
he's from Chicago.
I know tha
t that's something (ph)...
SIMON: Yeah.
I was going to point that out
. I can't believe I restrained myself.
MONTANARO: This has been
what the internet's been talking about here
. I found that great,
and so did late-night comics.
Here's Stephen Colbert.
(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT")
STEPHEN COLBERT: From now on,
the pope's going to sound like this -
(impersonating Chicago accent) hey, there.
It's your buddy, Leo...
(LAUGHTER)
COLBERT: ...(Impersonating Chicago accent) The Deep Dish Papa.
Just talked to God,
and not even he can help the White Sox.
Sorry.
(LAUGHTER)
MONTANARO: And he ended it saying,
and we're now going to end by saying
da prayers.
So (laughter)...
SIMON: Oh, it was hilarious
. And there was some early incorrect reporting,
wasn't there?
MONTANARO: Yeah, that he was, unfortunately,
you know, a Cubs fan.
I know you're a Cubs fan.
SIMON: Don't say unfortunately a Cubs fan,
but go on, I guess.
MONTANARO: But he is, apparently, a White Sox fan.
His brother very much detailed that.
But, you know
, I'll say a prayer for your Cubs
'cause they lost to my Mets last night.
So we'll see what happens to the rest of this weekend.
SIMON: Well, they're just getting warmed up.
You know that.
MONTANARO: We'll see.
SIMON: You know that.
NPR's Domenico Montanaro.
Domenico, thanks so much.
MONTANARO: Oh, you're welcome.
And we're going to turn out NPR senior political edito
r and correspondent Domenico Montanaro.
Domenico, thanks for being with us.
DOMENICO MONTANARO, BYLINE: Hey, Scott.
SIMON: Traditionally,
Domenico,
the U.S. would step up
and try to avoid the worst
in a conflict.
What does the administration say?
MONTANARO: Yeah.
And you would have seen a more whole - full-scale approach diplomatically,
but Trump said
in his social media post
that the ceasefire announced
came after a long night of talks mediated
by the U.S
. He then offered congratulations
to both countries on,
he said, using common sense and great intelligence.
We don't know how long this holds,
if it holds.
We know that Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
like you said,
has been in touch with officials
on both sides in both countries.
State Department said
Rubio wants to see both sides de-escalate
and reestablish direct communication
to avoid miscalculation.
But we know that Vice President JD Vance,
earlier in the week,
had made waves, telling Fox News
that the conflict was fundamentally none of our business a
nd that the U.S. wants to see de-escalation.
But, he said,
we can't control what these countries do.
SIMON: Domestically,
a federal judge ordered
the release of a graduate student
detained by U.S. immigration authorities
saying, quote, "
there is no evidence here."
MONTANARO: Yeah. This is the case of the young woman
Rumeysa Ozturk,
a Tufts University international student
who was seen on video,
you might remember,
taken off the streets in Massachusetts
by plainclothes government officers and
renditioned to a detention center
in Louisiana.
She'd been there
for the last six weeks
. The government had accused her
of participating in activitie
s that were supportive of Hamas,
but the judge in this case said that
there's just no evidence of that.
And his decision to release her holds,
he said,
until he makes a final ruling
about the constitutionality of her detention.
SIMON: There's been a shake-up
of Trump's political appointees.
Who's in?
Who's out this week?
MONTANARO: Yeah. You know
, you might know the name Jeanine Pirro.
She's famously...
SIMON: Yes.
MONTANARO: ...Known as Judge Jeanine
on Fox News.
But she hasn't practiced law
in a long time,
but she's taking over
as interim U.S. attorney for D.C.
She's pretty close to Trump
and is replacing his first pick
for the job, Ed Martin.
It was pretty clear
Martin didn't have the votes
because of his views on January 6.
He was very much involved
in the Stop the Steal efforts
and defended some of those
who stormed the Capitol that day.
You know, Pirro's own statements, though,
have gotten her in trouble -
and her network -
on the 2020 election.
Casey Means is the new pick
for surgeon general.
She's a close ally
of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
. She replaces another Fox News personality
whose credentials came under scrutiny last week.
The controversy
around Means is that
her medical license isn't active
. That's usually a prerequisite
to be surgeon general.
She didn't finish her residency
. She said
she'd lost faith
in modern American medicine
. So, Scott, Fox News, RFK Jr.
, that's who Trump seems to be listening to
when it comes to many of these appointments.
SIMON: And, of course,
want to ask you - a new pope.
MONTANARO: Yeah.
SIMON: Not exactly political
in the American sense,
but let's not be naive about it.
Popes always are -
have something to do with politics.
MONTANARO: Yeah, definitely.
You know,
and most Americans never thought
they'd see an American pope in their lifetime
. You know
, that he's American really raised eyebrows
, not just because there's never been one,
but also because of
who's in the White House currently,
in President Trump.
Some scholars have suggested
that it might not be a total coincidence
that an American very unlike Trump was picked.
This pope says
he'll be a pope
in the vein of Francis,
who was pro-immigrant,
pro-climate action
and a supporter of Ukraine.
He said just this morning
that he picked the name Leo
- Leo XIV in this case
- because Leo XIII spoke out at the turn
of the 20th century
about workers' rights
during the Industrial Revolution
, and now he sees another industrial revolution
with artificial intelligence.
We'll see how much of a moralistic check
he is to Trump.
But when a pope speaks,
you know,
people listen.
So it can tend to matter.
Also, Scott
, I know
he's from Chicago.
I know tha
t that's something (ph)...
SIMON: Yeah.
I was going to point that out
. I can't believe I restrained myself.
MONTANARO: This has been
what the internet's been talking about here
. I found that great,
and so did late-night comics.
Here's Stephen Colbert.
(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT")
STEPHEN COLBERT: From now on,
the pope's going to sound like this -
(impersonating Chicago accent) hey, there.
It's your buddy, Leo...
(LAUGHTER)
COLBERT: ...(Impersonating Chicago accent) The Deep Dish Papa.
Just talked to God,
and not even he can help the White Sox.
Sorry.
(LAUGHTER)
MONTANARO: And he ended it saying,
and we're now going to end by saying
da prayers.
So (laughter)...
SIMON: Oh, it was hilarious
. And there was some early incorrect reporting,
wasn't there?
MONTANARO: Yeah, that he was, unfortunately,
you know, a Cubs fan.
I know you're a Cubs fan.
SIMON: Don't say unfortunately a Cubs fan,
but go on, I guess.
MONTANARO: But he is, apparently, a White Sox fan.
His brother very much detailed that.
But, you know
, I'll say a prayer for your Cubs
'cause they lost to my Mets last night.
So we'll see what happens to the rest of this weekend.
SIMON: Well, they're just getting warmed up.
You know that.
MONTANARO: We'll see.
SIMON: You know that.
NPR's Domenico Montanaro.
Domenico, thanks so much.
MONTANARO: Oh, you're welcome.