English News Listening Practice-NPR(5/12)
If you are a first-time visitor, click on the listening address - it will take you directly to where you can listen to the full text and audio.
Full text and listening address: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/11/nx-s1-5393727/trump-says-great-progress-was-made-on-the-first-day-of-u-s-china-trade-talks
You can visit the site at the original address and listen like I did.
I hope your listening skills improve every day.
It's also important to speak along to improve your skills.
(TIP) How to study US news
1) Get in the habit of reading NPR news in chunks.
2) Use a translator (Google, Papago ) for interpretation.
3) For words you don't know, use Daum Kids Dictionary or Naver Papago Dictionary.
4) When listening to news such as abc, cbs, nbc, ncbs, msnbc, fox, white house, pbs, etc., correct the script with English automatic generation if possible.
5) If you use a cell phone, you can listen to the broadcast, so it is a moving recorder. If you listen to it a lot, your ears will open by themselves.
스크립트를 보면서 시청하거나 끊어듣기를 하세요.
Trump says 'great progress' was made on the first day of U.S.-China trade talks
AYESHA RASCOE, HOST:
More on the U.S.-China talks
taking place in Geneva this weekend.
The two countries
are aiming to reach an agreement
to resolve their trade war
. I'm joined now
by James McGregor
in the studio.
He lived in China
for 30 years
and is the chairman of the Greater China region
at APCO Worldwide
, a global advisory firm.
Good morning,
and welcome to the show.
JAMES MCGREGOR: Oh, thanks for having me.
RASCOE: So can you give us a sense of
what's at stake for the global economy
in these talks?
MCGREGOR: Oh, my.
Well, if - you know,
if you look at the tension
that's been built
between the two countries,
it's almost led to a trade embargo
'cause the tariffs are so high
, and both countries are so important
to the rest of the world.
And so how do they work their way out of this?
And the way
the U.S. has approached China
on this by threatening China
and saying,
if you don't lower your tarif
f by noon tomorrow,
I'm going to give you another one.
This is China.
This isn't a small country
. And that has kind of united China,
that they're being threatened
by this administration.
And China can wait it out longer
than the U.S. can.
And so this administration knows that
, and that's why
they are having these talks
now to try to de-escalate.
RASCOE: Well, what do you think
will be China's position
in these negotiations?
MCGREGOR: I think
they're fact-finding
. I think they want to find out
what is Trump's end game.
What does he really want from them?
But I think
they will not make a lot
- I think we're going to see some de-escalation
in tariffs,
just as a nominal thing
to keep talks going
. The thing is,
what kind of a big dea
l can be done?
If you remember the first Trump administration,
they did a Phase 1 trade deal.
The president wanted very high numbers,
so there was all this stuff built up
on all the things China would buy,
which they didn't -
which they didn't fulfill,
but I think...
RASCOE: Yeah.
MCGREGOR: ...Everybody knew
they couldn't fulfill it
when they were doing the deal.
The question is the systems
. In order to have a big trade deal
with China,
you got to reconcile an authoritarian capitalist system
with a market-based capitalist system.
And it's - that is something
they couldn't address before
, and it's going to be very hard
to address now
. How do these two countries do business together
and work together
with these very different systems
, both of which are successful
in their own way?
RASCOE: Well, you said that
China could wait this out longer.
How long do they have,
and what type of pain
is China feeling right now?
MCGREGOR: Well, there's a lot of small manufacturers
who were doing good business
with the U.S
. who are now stopped
and trying to figure out
where they go.
But I talked to some friends,
and they said people
are not really panicked
because they've seen
how the administration works.
They make big threats, and
then they back off.
And they - and also they really feel like
they're under assault.
The vice president was not helpful
by giving a speech
where he talked about,
you know,
we buy from Chinese peasants
and they lend us some money
. When you're denigrating the Chinese people
as peasants -
this is a very sophisticated society now
with advanced technologies and science.
And so they're pretty united.
And they've all been schooled
on the hundred years of humiliation
from the West and all that.
RASCOE: Well, how long do you think
these negotiations will play out?
Do you think
we will get some sort of agreement
or framework
in the next week or two?
MCGREGOR: No.
RASCOE: No?
MCGREGOR: No.
RASCOE: (Laughter) No, not at all.
MCGREGOR: This could go on
for a long, long time.
RASCOE: OK.
MCGREGOR: They're going to have to find a way
to make it
that you can do enough business
while they have a long-term talk
'cause there is no quick deal
to be done.
Like, in order
- if they want big numbers again
, it's going to have to be Chinese investments
in the U.S.,
which are quite blocked right now.
But there's a lot of impediments to that
'cause - like Chinese EVs
, you know, a third of the cars
in Mexico
in the last year
have come from China.
They're flooding the world.
They're not coming here
. If we allow Chinese companie
s to come here and manufacture their electric vehicles
or any vehicles,
like they did with the Japanese
, you've got these problems with data.
We have this connected car rule here
. You can't have software
that will send data
out of the country
and all that.
RASCOE: Well, what about the pressure that
the Trump administration feels
to get something done,
especially with people concerned
you're going to have empty shelves
and things of that nature if these -
if this keeps going?
MCGREGOR: China's watching that.
China knows that,
you know, Christmas orders
come in August or September,
and they know that
this administration's got to do something
before then
because they can't have empty shelves.
So China's actually in a pretty good spot
in that regard.
RASCOE: And so what do you think that
the U.S. will likely try to get out of this,
or do you have any sense of it?
MCGREGOR: They want to save face
. I think the Trump administration,
maybe not the president himself,
but they know that
the way they've pushed China
is not the optimal way
to deal with that country.
And so they want to save face
. They want to say that,
we've had a small victory here
and we're working it out,
you know, there's a good deal
and all of that,
and we're on our way.
But to really come to a deal,
it's going to take a long time
, a long time,
and a lot of changes.
It is a reconciliation
of two very different systems,
and that's the problem.
That's the global problem
. China's system is different
than everybody else,
and when it leaves China,
it can be very predatory
because of all the subsidies
and just the way
the country works.
RASCOE: That's James McGregor
from APCO Worldwide
. Thank you so much
for joining us.
MCGREGOR: Thank you.